I wonder if any of one would be interested in tutorials on reading data within a program (AIM, Motec, CDS) with a voice over, and actually showing an
analysis being creating and verbalizing the analysis? Complete with the configurations of plots and using them. These would be a video type of format and
downloadable over the internet.
Recently I have done such an analysis, one of my customers sent me his data and I analyzed it, and commented on the analysis while I did it and sent it back to
him.
He picked up a lot of techniques that might have taken him a few seminars to grab hold of, as it was geared directly to his car, driving and data. It was
just a test of it, though I did notice he picked up very rapidly on analyzing data. Hence the idea.
As someone who started reading data (some 18 years ago) by having a hired consultant on our 1990 S2000 team (Lee Lucas) and watching over his shoulder (Bob
Lobenberg) provided a steep learning curve for understanding data. I feel it would be similar to having this kind of teaching and able to "look" over
a consultant's shoulder to see the techniques in use. Though I had many years of learning from Bob, and was able to attend many races working with him, I
still feel to this day, that was worth more than anything I have read in book or any seminar I've attended (quite a few on data).
In the last year I've been attending mostly club events, rather than the normal pro races I've done annually. I was amazed to find the number of
people who have data systems and don't really use them. I'm very surprised that their are so many? Surprising that even some racers who have attended
seminars on reading data, though getting some use, are just scraping the surface of getting some real good use out of it.
Does anyone think it would something they would be interested in?
Seems to work as a learning tool, and was wondering if their might be a market for it, your thoughts????
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So do I zip the data and where do I send it?
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Posts: 100 06/21/08 16:30:52 |
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As soon as I master the program that creates the video, still learning how to use it. Probably about a week away with that.
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There is certainly a market for that kind of tutorial. Go for it!
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Posts: 2 06/30/08 19:41:05 |
I'd be interested.
It may also be useful to have different levels: Level 1 for the rank novice at reading data Level 2 for someone who knows the basics but wants to get a bit more info Level 3 for those proficient and looking for the bleeding edge Fabian |
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We'd be intrested...
Ambrose Buldo - Abuldo@aol.com
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I would be interested especially in using advanced sensors like 3 axis gyros, multiple accelerometers, load cells laser ride heights, and all associated math
channels. The more in depth, the more I am willing to pay
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chad wrote:
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Posts: 169 07/16/08 12:18:49 |
George,
Having the other 2 gyros (roll and pitch) would be useful for chassis controls. I don't know that there is much of a market for chassis controls in our level of racing. From reading his posts I suspect George gets significant information about roll and pitch from the shock travel sensors. |
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I am always interested in hearing new ways that people find to use sensors for. There is always many more ways than one way to arrive at the same answer.
Having worked with 38 channel systems and even 76 channel systems there are lots of ways to see the data output. When it comes to suspension, just using suspension pots is very helpful with the "right" math behind it. Adding strain gauges or load cells, makes the answers clearer. Adding Laser Ride adds information not availiable through the other two. (accurate ride height, rather than ride change) With Gyros, you do get acceleration measurements that may or may not be inline with the math of the G meters, and make a judgement based on chassis accellerations rather than presumed calculations from the suspension and the onboard G meters. BTW, I have encountered a few problems with creating the training videos and have been working with the software creator to help fix them, hopefully we will get it sorted out soon. |
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Posts: 4 07/29/08 09:06:03 |
Note, screencasts are being very well used in the software development industry as a training tool. Here is one of the better vendors if you're interested
in how others are doing it and being successful with it. http://pragprog.com/screencasts Tim
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Posts: 134 08/15/08 09:07:12 |
Thanks for the link, Tim.
I've looked into podcasts, though I believe watching someone operate the program that you are using, from within the program can teach volumes. Not only by showing how the analysis was done but how the program was used to get there. As podcasts tend to show speakers and show programs, it is the programs out there themselves that are causing most of the problems. |
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Posts: 5 08/17/08 13:50:39 |
George: Screencasts are not podcasts in the original sense. A podcast, audio & video are generally not that much different than a radio & TV news story
or other somesuch. A screen cast is someone talking over video of the computer screen they are interacting with. So, in a screen cast it would be able to show
exactly how the software is manipulated to perform the analysis. That is what you are trying to achieve, no? We use these for software engineers who are
learning a new technology or programming language or framework. It allows them to see exactly how an experience software engineer solves problems by viewing
the code the write as they talk over the work, and then seeing the result of the work in the screen view as well. We've found it to be much more effective
than reading a book (our books take too long to come to press as the technologies are usually well advanced by the time the book prints) and has the benefits
of pair programming without the need to have a pair with all the answers.
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